1 Vereinsthaler - Louis II "Madonnentaler"
Features
| Issuer |
Kingdom of Bavaria
(German States)  |
|---|---|
| King |
Louis II (Ludwig II) (1864-1886)
|
| Type | Standard circulation coins |
| Years | 1866-1871 (1865-1871) |
| Value | 1 Vereinsthaler (1.75) |
| Currency | Gulden (1857-1873) |
| Composition | Silver (.900) |
| Weight | 18.5 g |
| Diameter | 33 mm |
| Thickness | 2.4 mm |
| Shape | Round |
| Technique | Milled |
| Orientation | Medal alignment ↑↑ |
| Demonetized | Yes |
| Number | N# 15933 |
| References | AKS# 176 Paul Arnold, Harald Küthmann, Dirk Steinhilber; 2022. Großer deutscher Münzkatalog: von 1800 bis heute = Great German Coin Catalog (37th Edition). Battenberg Gietl Verlag, Regenstauf, Bavaria, Germany. Kurt Jaeger. Die Münzprägungen der deutschen Staaten, 5. Heft (2 volumes). Standard Catalog of World Coins (86 volumes). Johann Peter Beierlein. Die Medaillen und Münzen des Gesamthauses Wittelsbach. Straub, Munich, Bavaria, Germany (2 volumes). Helmut Kahnt. Deutsche Silbermünzen 1800-1872. Battenberg Gietl Verlag, Regenstauf, Bavaria, Germany (2 volumes). Norbert Thun; 1979. Deutsche Taler, Doppelgulden, Doppeltaler von 1800-1871 = German Thalers, Double Guldens, Double Thalers from 1800-1871. Verlag Frankfurter Numismatik, Frankfurt am Main, Hesse, Germany. John Stewart Davenport; 1949. German Talers since 1800. Spink & Son, Galesburg, Illinois, United States. |
Obverse
Bust facing right.
Script: Latin
Lettering:
LVDOVICVS II BAVARIAE REX
C.VOIGT
Engraver: Carl Friedrich Voigt
Reverse
Nimbate seated figures of Saint Mary with child, seated over crescent moon on clouds.
Script: Latin
Lettering:
PATRONA BAVARIÆ
18 67
Engraver: Carl Friedrich Voigt
Edge
Inscription
Script: Latin
Lettering: XXX * EIN * PFUND * FEIN * - *
© Michass (CC BY-SA)
Mint
Munich, Germany (1158-date)Comments
Previously listed as KM#489
Proof versions exist.
Proof versions exist.
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| Date | Mintage | VG | F | VF | XF | AU | UNC | Frequency | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Undetermined | |||||||||||||||
| ND (1865) | 
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110 000 | $ 68 | $ 72 | $ 130 | $ 300 | 34% | ||||||||
| 1866 |
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100 000 | $ 90 | $ 90 | $ 170 | 15% | |||||||||
| 1866 | Proof | 0.9% | |||||||||||||
| 1867 |
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100 000 | 9% | ||||||||||||
| 1867 | Proof | 1.4% | |||||||||||||
| 1868 |
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100 000 | $ 120 | $ 120 | $ 120 | 14% | |||||||||
| 1868 | Proof | 0.9% | |||||||||||||
| 1869 |
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100 000 | 6% | ||||||||||||
| 1869 | Proof | 0% | |||||||||||||
| 1870 |
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263 500 | $ 88 | $ 130 | $ 230 | 15% | |||||||||
| 1870 | Proof | 0.5% | |||||||||||||
| 1871 |
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718 000 | $ 93 | $ 120 | $ 150 | $ 290 | 28% | ||||||||
| 1871 | Proof | 0% | |||||||||||||
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Bullion value: USD 36.61
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Actual silver weight: 0.535 oz
Current silver price: 68.39 USD/oz (see silver price 
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Past sales
| Pictures | Sale | Date | Version | Grade | Sold price | |
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Katz Auction 119 Lot 640 
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30 Mar 2024 | ND (1865) | AU |
USD 132.69
(EUR 115.00) (+ buyer's premium) |
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Katz Auction 114 Lot 476
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24 Feb 2024 | ND (1865) | XF |
USD 66.92
(EUR 58.00) (+ buyer's premium) |
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Katz Auction 69 Lot 1251
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29 Oct 2022 | ND (1865) | XF |
USD 71.54
(EUR 62.00) (+ buyer's premium) |
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Katz Auction 119 Lot 641
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30 Mar 2024 | ND (1865) | VF |
USD 68.07
(EUR 59.00) (+ buyer's premium) |
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Heritage Auctions 2026 January 20 Spotlight: German States World Coins Showcase Auction 61585 Lot 22056
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20 Jan 2026 | 1866 |
UNC (PCGS MS66) |
USD 1342.00
(incl. buyer's premium) |
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Katz Auction 72 Lot 1541
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21 Dec 2022 | 1866 | UNC |
USD 122.30
(EUR 106.00) (+ buyer's premium) |
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Katz Auction 61 Lot 1864
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7 Jun 2022 | 1866 | UNC |
USD 91.15
(EUR 79.00) (+ buyer's premium) |
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Heritage Auctions Thursday World & Ancient Coins Weekly Online Auction 232008 Lot 63274
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20 Feb 2020 | 1866 |
UNC (NGC MS63) |
USD 168.00
(incl. buyer's premium) |
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Katz Auction 82 Lot 467
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13 May 2023 | 1866 | AU |
USD 87.69
(EUR 76.00) (+ buyer's premium) |
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Katz Auction 63 Lot 11
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26 Jul 2022 | 1866 | AU |
USD 147.69
(EUR 128.00) (+ buyer's premium) |
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